but look, elections have consequences. it will be the mindset from everything we're hearing and it is a no-go. what i'm asking you is are republicans willing to hold the line, say to the president, i am sorry we will never agree to a deal that involves an increase in taxes? are they? >> i think any deal that passes up here that raises taxes and raises taxes as i mentioned earlier on small businesses, martha, will not enjoy republican support. now there may be enough republicans who would vote for something like that to pass in the house of representatives, they need 218 votes. martha: then it would be done, right? >> we'll see about that. we don't know what the down tours of a final deal might look. everybody is sort of in their corners and doing their posturing. frankly we need a plan from the president. republicans put forward on multiple occasions a plan that would reform taxes, that would reform entitlements, that gets us where we need to go. we're waiting for any ideas from the administration that would accomplish the